Nonwhite Children Legitimacy Is a Tea Party Movement Nightmare

The Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the US Constution offer the native born children automatic citizenship and the chance to someday vote in elections.

Nope.... children born to illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of the country of the parents.... they are not automatically guaranteed US citizenship, regardless of what ludicrous ruling has previously come from the Supremes.... the fact that citizenship has been automatically conferred upon these kids is only one of many things which have to be changed...

if they are not subject to american juridiction then they can commit any crime in the US without fear of arrest

It's called naturalization, George. Anyone born in the United States is an American citizen. You might have a problem with it, but I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts your family that immigrated here liked that law.

@ Dr. Fell - Everyone in the United States, shy of those holding diplomatic immunity as an ambassador with the United Nations or a foreign ministry, are subject to the laws of the United States. When you're on our soil, you have to follow our laws. I don't know who told you otherwise, but they were completely, utterly wrong.

We might extradite a criminal to a different country, but we are in no way obligated to do so. Do the crime, the government can make you do the time, regardless of what country you hail from.

Matt one example of that is the rapist/murderer that was a Mexican citizen and just got executed in Texas. If you follow that story they are trying to change some laws so that people are advised they can seek assistance from their country when they commit a crime in the US. Bush and I believe also Obama tried to step in to have a stay of execution, but that was not allowed. There is also an issue with the world government and countries that are a part of it, the world government is indicating that the US is not abiding by these laws even in this sad case that I mention. Our government legislators are trying to make a law that will change this, it makes one wonder if then Dr Fell's assumption would then become true.

I wonder what will happen to people that are born here, but are allowed dual citizenship?

Personally, I think the death penalty is barbaric and pointless, and that Texas is the worst of the worst in that regard. If all death penalty sentences were carried out with public beheadings, you'd see the already-waning support for the death penalty drop through the floor. I'm not saying these people aren't monsters, and I'm not keen on watching them suck up taxpayer money in prisons for the rest of eternity, but the only other solution is to establish a prison island, circa the film No Escape, where they live out the rest of their days in isolation and fending for themselves. Of course, that's pretty much what Australia was, and now they have an economy.

More to the subject, though, is the question of a person's rights, and at what point you're comfortable stripping those rights away from a person. This guy in this particular case was guilty five ways from sunday, but the same can't be said for everyone ever executed by Texas, let alone in the United States. What if you had traveled to Mexico, were arrested for a crime you didn't commit, and were sentenced and executed without having been told your full consulate rights?

I can't say what the consulate would have done in this case, but it's not like they could have waved a magic wand and set this guy free, or had him extradited to Mexico. They might have paid for better defense attorneys, if they thought the guy was innocent (and seriously, who would think that? This guy was as guilty as they come, I think), or they might have requested the Federal government move him to a State that's a little less trigger happy about offing people. Again, I'm just floating all of that, it just seems like what would happen.

He is merely contrasting the KKK's ideals with those of the Tea Party.

The key KKK mistake was an enchantment with the 1924 Virginia Racial Purity Act mindset in a nation made up of immigrants without giving thought to the long term implications of exploiting nonwhite illegal immigrant labor.

That thought summed it up nicely for me.

the false premise that the KKK is still a prevailing political force.

If you think that the mantras and tenets of the kkk are not thoroughly prevalent in the JBS, among the "dixiecrats", the American neo nazis, ALL white supremacists, a greater portion of the Koch controlled tea party and libertarians, not to mention all or nearly all of the radical right, not to mention a sizable portion of southern baptists and evangelicals, then as my mother used to say, "You've got another think coming, buster!".

Ideas are powerful weapons, in politics the primary weapons, and the kkk doesn't (although they very probably do in greater numbers than anyone knows except them) even have to exist as long as their ideas do...

and boy DO THEY!

Your entire article is based on the false premise that the KKK is still a prevailing political force.

Pay no attention to the troll behind the curtain.

KKK type thinking is still a force ... to say otherwise is naive.

Ripley, no, it's not. Go out and start screaming about how we need to start lynching blacks again. No one, anywhere, will support you.

Go out and start screaming about how we need to start lynching blacks again. No one, anywhere, will support you.

The kkk and the rest of the white supremacists and racists won't scream it out loud because they are nothing less than sneaky, cowardly punks (much like the gop), NOT because they wouldn't make the attempt in a New York second if the opportunity of getting away with it presented itself.

And yet we don't hear about lynchings happening often. This leads me to believe that you are mistaken.

CommisarCain

Ripley, no, it's not. Go out and start screaming about how we need to start lynching blacks again. No one, anywhere, will support you.

And yet we don't hear about lynchings happening often

often ... like the Obama doll hung by a noose off the side of a building in the south.

or like the black man drug by a bunch of white morons behind a pick up in Texas

keep up with the excuses ...

fact is the thinking exists . otherwise the kkk ( and other such insecure hate groups like Aryan Nation) would have folded years ago

The black guy drug behind a truck was a few years ago, and the people who did it were imprisoned. Also, the doll hung by a noose does not count. Unless you care about the Bush dolls that got torched.

CommisarCain -

Are you ten years old?

Certainly sounds it.

It's interesting you mention California. Whites and other minorities get along decently. However, I've learned that certain groups, such as African Americans and Mexicans hold similar a similar disdain between them compared to the racism witnessed in the first half of the 20th century.

That might be right. I have met Mexicans that are well to do that have obvious racist feelings toward African Americans - more than whites would have. But I've never seen it work the other way more probably than not, it's there and I'm missing it. Some African Americans I've talked to say they like living in California because the racism isn't as bad as other places.

I certainly wouldn't have ever suggested California is racism free. But compared to other states, I'd say we're doing a good job of getting past it.

Furthermore, it was the Democrat Party that furthered racial division and animosity.

Don't even try that. The old southern Democrats were known as "dixiecrats" and they rolled over into the gop along about the time that the JBS hijacked it.

What was is not. What is never was.